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Romney or Obama?
Romney
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 75%  [ 9 ]
Obama
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Flip
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:59 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Can anyone else tell a difference? If Romney gets the nomination, and I'm pretty sure he will, I'm voting for Obama. If Obama stays in, there's a good chance Hillary stays where she's at. I like the opposition that Hillary and Obama bring to each other.

EDIT: Hillary Clinton gained national fame from her graduation speech from Wellesley and her public confession of being against social engineering. On top of that, right in the very beginnings of the changes we see now, her husband was president. Most describe his presidency as a frenetic attempt to reduce the national deficit. His intention was to make us strong when we needed to be.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:09 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Better the devil you don't know then the one currently in office.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:07 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Romney makes a lot of sense right up until you get to umm, y'know, the whole human rights thing. I mean, guns, fiscal responsibility, small government, what's not to like? Oh yeah... reproductive freedom is not on the agenda... and Flip can't marry Ferno. That's lame. Maybe we could create a hybrid, Mittrak Obamney

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:36 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Lol, me and ferno have a special bond Smile. Seems Romney has some odder than norm religious beliefs too. Something to do with getting and being ruler of your own planet. Lol, I dunno, maybe, but I wouldn't bet the farm on having any idea of what the afterlife will be like. That's all we need is some heavens gate type individual to be president. I'm no fan of Obama, but I think since the real challenge is to manage resources, he is faced with the task of building world-wide infrastructure. I'd rather that be slow and thought-out if that's the route we are taking. I'm not sure Romney is a better alternative to what we have right now. The whole world is having an identity crisis. We here used to be unilaterally Americans and it bonded us together. Now, that feeling isn't as strong and everyone is talking world community. My problem with the whole idea, is it's course is being plotted by these guys:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8259800846851144110#

I had said this very thing on .net, but if World Government is gonna be these guys idea, I'm gonna have a hard time thinking it will turn out good.
roid
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:32 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Obama building world-wide infrastructure?
Whole world having an identity crisis?

uh no man, we're fine out here.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:37 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

The day we need a world government... is about ten years after we are contacted by the galactic federation.... or when we become the founding member of same. Until then, I think I'd rather the US just muddle through on its own.

World government means a lot of things to a lot of people, but to most of them it seems to mean "redistribution of wealth without having to work for it", and in that scenario it's not win-win. In fact, in that scenario, everybody loses.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:56 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

I'm against the idea myself, but I have watched it take root and grow since the late 80's. In 1984 a Soviet defector wrote a book called new lies for old, in it he wrote:

Quote:
In 1984, Golitsyn published the book New Lies For Old,[13] wherein he predicted the collapse of the communist bloc orchestrated from above. He warned about a long-term deception strategy designed to lull the West into a false sense of security, and finally economically cripple and diplomatically isolate the United States. Among other things, Golitsyn stated:
"The 'liberalization' [in the Soviet Union] would be spectacular and impressive. Formal pronouncements might be made about a reduction in the communist party's role; its monopoly would be apparently curtailed."
"If [liberalization] should be extended to East Germany, demolition of the Berlin Wall might even be contemplated."
"The European Parliament might become an all-European socialist parliament with representation from the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. 'Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals' would turn out to be a neutral, socialist Europe."


Now everything he predicted is exactly how it is right now.
In 1989, The Berlin Wall was tore down.
In 1991, The USSR 'collapsed'
In 1993, The European Union formed
In 1993, Nafta Passed

All of these things were huge steps toward world government, with Golitsyn in 1984 giving us an outline of how the Soviets planned to achieve it. Bush Sr, gets on national television and announces a "New World Order" and not long after we see the whole world following suit. I don't think people understand that politicians are just people too. They get together and fish and hunt and drink together.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:43 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Scary.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:25 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

VonVulcan wrote:
Better the devil you don't know then the one currently in office.

Better the devil you DON'T know? What kind of backwards reasoning is that? Razz

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:59 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Very Happy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelty_seeking

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:32 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

blahblahblah 2012. It's 2040 we should be worried about.

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roid
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:39 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

worried? huh, i took the idea the opposite way - it sounds like something to be welcomed with open arms. Fake fake fake Mary Sues in power, bleh who needs em. Bring on the social-media age of increased transparency i say.

In Europe leaders have multiple affairs and no-one gives a shit, as they shouldn't.

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:52 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Where's the option for neither? Razz
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:54 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

That's called "fantasy" Neo, though I prefer it.

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:01 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

This poll should have had an "other" choice for those of us who want to give the middle finger to the two headed D'n'R dragon.

Need BOTH parties out of power.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:57 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

roid wrote:
Bring on the social-media age of increased transparency i say.


See a lot of transparency these last 3 years?
roid
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:01 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

come again?

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:33 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Obama uses social media, promised new transparency, fails to deliver
Thorne
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:39 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

roid wrote:
In Europe leaders have multiple affairs and no-one gives a shit, as they shouldn't.

If you can't trust someone to be faithful in a relationship, you shouldn't trust them to be faithful in a position of public trust, I would say.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:12 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Either that or you want the cheating bastard on YOUR side...

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:20 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Cheating bastards only have one side. Their own Razz
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:34 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Bunyip wrote:
That's called "fantasy" Neo, though I prefer it.


It's actually called 'reality.'
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:43 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:48 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Actually it's fantasy that choosing either is the only choice. If "your vote counts", as these folks like to say, then use it to get the problem(s) out of Washington. I plan on voting for Ron Paul, and I don't give a damn if people think it's a vote for Obama--that kind of thinking certainly condemns us to a two-party-only system. If Ron Paul makes a significant showing in the polls, even if it fails to topple the big two, a statement has still been made--a voice that would otherwise be unheard and so may as well not exist except that we as Americans choose to say "no" to the lesser of two evils.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:43 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Thorne wrote:
Actually it's fantasy that choosing either is the only choice. If "your vote counts", as these folks like to say, then use it to get the problem(s) out of Washington. I plan on voting for Ron Paul, and I don't give a damn if people think it's a vote for Obama--that kind of thinking certainly condemns us to a two-party-only system. If Ron Paul makes a significant showing in the polls, even if it fails to topple the big two, a statement has still been made--a voice that would otherwise be unheard and so may as well not exist except that we as Americans choose to say "no" to the lesser of two evils.


Me too Razz
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:36 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Bunyip wrote:
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice


...and your point is? Razz
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:42 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Simple.

I will choose free will...

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:50 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Lee and Lifeson 2012

Too bad they're from Canadia

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:10 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

You have the freedom to choose a tyrant. Smile Third choice is always the best. ^_^

And what the deuce is Canadia? O_o
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:23 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

I will never vote in a national election again. Because it doesn't matter. You're not voting for either of these fucks. You're voting for GE, Viacom, the NRA, all the major investment banks...the list goes on and on. America was bought and paid for a long time ago - and if you think your vote matters, you're a fucking idiot.

I vote Revolution 2012.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:45 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich 2012
Flip
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:48 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

I vote for finding ways to use the banks money to get rich.
roid
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:40 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

it is possible to vote 3rd (4th, 5th, 6th, etc) party right? do that thing.
Better than not voting.

It says you're prepared to vote for what you want, but you don't see what you want.
Better than saying you're not prepared to vote and never will be coz god damn democracy is so hard

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:19 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Vote lesser of the two evils I suppose. Sitting and voting the sidelines is good for the conscious, if you want to believe that, but it only serves to put either of the two douches in office.

It's not that I think Obama is Jesus, but he's certainly better than Romney. Seriously, that's the best the GOP could round up? Forget about the tax returns, Cayman Island crap, all that stuff. He's a super-rich guy, I expect him to have all that--I would be more surprised if he didn't. The guy is the ultimate salesman, how many times has he switched positions on the same issue in the same year, month, day, even the same interview!!

And for someone that wants to cut federal spending without looking at the massive defense budget needs serious help. At some point, the trillion dollar defense budget is going to have to be reworked. Any of you guys think a politician has the ballsack to do that? I sure don't.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:14 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Oh you mean except for Ron Paul? Razz

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