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Rook
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:43 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
Beowulf wrote:
My strategy? not play the game in years.

You bastard! Thats my strat, give it back!

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willkill
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:59 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
IsAB wrote:
Good thread idea....As for flying style, i seem to use rolling more than most peeps i fly against.


..not more than me Razz

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jesusfr3ak4evr
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:47 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
Beowulf wrote:
My strategy? not play the game in years.
Common phail strategy. I employ it sometimes.

I like to spawn kill people before they can shoot me with anything besides lasers and concs. It's a wonderful strategy.
Bunyip
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:15 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
tactic.

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kalanco
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:14 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
I have yet to figure out one that doesn't entail flailing about in the general direction of whatever's moving in front of me.
willkill
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:57 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
kalanco wrote:
I have yet to figure out one that doesn't entail flailing about in the general direction of whatever's moving in front of me.


Very Happy

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Behemoth
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:13 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
you guys are hopeless
Money!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:09 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
I consider 1v1 to be like a chess game, it's all mental. People who are stronger mentally will beat those with better skills (dodging, aiming, whatever) by playing mind games, knowing your enemy, using the best tactics for the correct situations, etc. I knew I was a better player than Icehammer in anarchy but he destroyed me 1v1. I could take him in a straight up fight with the same weps but he'd be sneaky and tag me when i wasn't expecting it. eventually I'd be flying around scared as fuck. confidence is a big part of it too. 1v1 is where the depth of the game is at and is probably the best example of why people who don't play will simply never understand. They will never be able to comprehend how deep 1v1 goes nor how much intelligence it requires. 1v1 is what makes d3 a great game.

In anarchy I have more of a style than a strategy. And that's usually run and get into the mix no matter what I've got. Makes shit really fun but drops my eff. I have more patience now when I play games like cod and I'd kinda like to pick up my stix again and bring that thinkin back into d3. I feel like patience is one of if not the biggest factor in raising your efficiency. The patience to pick your fights so that you'll win them. But i'd rather fly the fuck around until i find my tri-whore and throw myself into the mosh pit

Hi cloud i miss you fool

This is all from when I used to play tho

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Behemoth
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:16 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
the mental part of it is the only thing that makes it worth playing for me anymore, thats why i dont get off on anarchy like other players do
Cloud
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:02 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
Yo yo Money, im still around, sup foo?

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JazzyJet
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:04 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
My strategy is to chase whoever I like the least and give them some of my jazzy love.
Other than that I try to always be aware of my surroundings and my play style and it's weaknesses. Being aware of yourself and your opponents without getting frustrated is the best way to change and improve your style based on the game. Although I think to do it well takes fresh practice of the game which I'm still working on.
Money!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:56 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
Cloud wrote:
Yo yo Money, im still around, sup foo?


PMed ya

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Flip
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:50 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
Well since everybody here has about 15 years to my 2 I just go wide open trying to develop some skills Razz. Since I lack skills in the open still, I've found that I can usually get more aggressive players (read better than me Wink ) to chase after awhile, flying straight into my barrage which usually results in alot of whining >Smile.

Make em think your weak where your strong.
jesusfr3ak4evr
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:31 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
If I want to play chess, then I'll play chess and not D3. I've always enjoyed playing in a way that involves pure skill, twitching, and quick reactions. That's why I love fusion only and MD only. Last time I played, only Behe and Zero beat me in those areas.

On the other hand, I'm pretty decent at chess too... Smile I do attend the top chess university in the nation, afterall. UMBC
Flip
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:36 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
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I've always enjoyed playing in a way that involves pure skill, twitching, and quick reactions.


Same here. Just doesn't work out too well for a rookie Smile.
willkill
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:18 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
Behemoth wrote:
the mental part of it is the only thing that makes it worth playing for me anymore, thats why i dont get off on anarchy like other players do


..yet you were virtually orgasmic today in BI3 on DF.NET Cool

gg's bro...still tryin to get a stable connect Rolling Eyes

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Lobber
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:46 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
I was trying to find words for explaining the difference between Strategy and Tactics, and google brought up the following link as its first hit:


Alan Emrich wrote:
Course Analogy: Strategy vs. Tactics

Military minds often think in terms of strategy and tactics.

Strategy is immutable; it is a Big Picture look at a problem that focuses upon the entire forest and not individual trees. Military concepts such as objective, offensive, simplicity, unity of command, mass, economy of force, maneuver, surprise, and security represent the timeless principles of strategy. Why do you think Sun Tzu’s The Art of War has been a best seller for thousands of years and translated into every imaginable language? Because it teaches strategy and the lessons of strategy are timeless. They are bound to our very nature as humans.

Tactics vary with circumstances and, especially, technology. If I were to teach you how to be a soldier during the American Revolution, you would learn how to form and maneuver in lines, perform the 27 steps in loading and firing a musket, and how to ride and tend to a horse. Naturally, yesterday’s tactics won’t win today’s wars – but yesterday’s strategies still win today’s wars… and will win them tomorrow and into the future.

So, tactics present a Small Picture perspective where individual trees are in focus but the Big Picture of the forest is not. Just as your eyes have to look up from this page to refocus on the larger room you’re reading it in, so strategy and tactics require a different focus.


Therefore, to put it in Descent Terms, Strategy is what kind of game objectives you have.
Tactics is in fact what Behemoth was asking about. Tactics is how you use the tools and ships and weapons and architecture of the levels played to accomplish your strategic goal, be that get the most kills, most points, highest score, most territory, etc.

To enumerate:

Strategy
  • Anarchy - Kill the most times and die the least times
  • Capture the Flag - Capture the flag the most times and prevent the opposing team from capturing their flag.
  • Hoard - Kill and collect as many hoard spheres and turn them in before being killed, and prevent others from doing the same.
  • Team Anarchy - Help your teammates get the most kills for your team, and prevent the other team from doing the same.


You get the picture. Those are strategies. They are constants. If you don't want to be killed in Descent 3 or any game, and you want to kill the most in that game, then your strategy is the same as everyone else.

Tactics
  • Weapons - Utilize a particular weapon effectively in a particular situation / level / against a particular opponent.
  • Level Architecture - Utilize the geography / architecture of a particular level's design to your advantage and to the disadvantage of your opponent.
  • Enemy Modus Operandi - Study the strengths and weakensses of one's opponent and use maneuvers to outwit and outmaneuver said opponent.


And so on. That is the definition and difference between Descent Strategy and Descent Tactics. Strategy for Descent is the same across all three version of descent with the notable exceptions wherein some Descent version have gamestyles not present in others, like Capture the Flag in D2 that isn't in D1. Tactics are real world situations, and are in fact different for each game because the physics for each game varies slightly and / or greatly depending on what is being analyzed.
Krom
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:29 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
Quote:
Strategy
  • Anarchy - Kill the most times and die the least times
Wrong, the correct strategy is: "Get the most kills.". Efficiency is irrelevant, you can maintain a perfect efficiency and still loose in anarchy.

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Lobber
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:32 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
Thank you for making my point ever sharper.
Spidey
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:11 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
Krom wrote:
Quote:
Strategy
  • Anarchy - Kill the most times and die the least times
Wrong, the correct strategy is: "Get the most kills.". Efficiency is irrelevant, you can maintain a perfect efficiency and still loose in anarchy.


True, if the game was set up in chat, played by the same players to the end. (for the most part)

It was so hard to find “set up” game on any given night (for me) that over my 10 years of playing…jumping into a server where somebody already had 75 kills was the usual. And so many players came and went over the course of the night…that playing for efficiency was the only real goal left.

For me anyway…

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Krom
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:54 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
I've joined large Anarchy games that had people already halfway to the goal and proceeded to win it for myself before. Made up a 100 point starting handicap in 45 minutes to win 200 to 198 in an indika 3 anarchy at the Chicago LAN.

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Behemoth
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:56 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
fast kills mean nothing in 1on1
i've seen players that could make kills really fast and then suck unbelievably on 1on1
needless to say i've always maintained about 300 kills in about an hour and 15 minutes
Krom
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:11 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
1v1 isn't anarchy dumbass.

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Behemoth
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:13 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
sure it is smartass
willkill
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:44 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
1v1 is not anarchy, the latter being separated by it's true definition...
the former separating itself by honor, even in death.

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Spidey
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:15 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
Krom wrote:
I've joined large Anarchy games that had people already halfway to the goal and proceeded to win it for myself before. Made up a 100 point starting handicap in 45 minutes to win 200 to 198 in an indika 3 anarchy at the Chicago LAN.


Sure, I’ve done that as well…but bragging isn’t my style.

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Zero
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:43 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
heh

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jesusfr3ak4evr
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:08 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
pshhhhhhhh, I'm the best.

... other than Behemoth. He'd pwn me in D1/2/3 right now.
Behemoth
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:15 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
hehe
where you been bro
jesusfr3ak4evr
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:55 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
Been messin with girls and business as usual =) Valentine's Day this year should be a special one.
Behemoth
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:33 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
hope so, glad everything is going well
roid
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:50 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
hey it's Lobber!

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Lobber
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:37 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message
I'tsah Me'ah!
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